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Old 05-16-2012, 07:01 PM
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if i were to push raceland (via insane website spamming ) to develop coilovers for 1st gen coopers. would anyone be interested in the potential group buy to get them up and running?

I've heard good things about raceland coilovers in the vw community so i figure why not get some inexpensive coilovers for mini's?
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:15 PM
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I've heard good things about raceland coilovers in the vw community so i figure why not get some inexpensive coilovers for mini's?
1. You already have VMaxx's available for MINIs if inexpensive coilovers are what you're looking for.

2. Outside of budget, there's nothing "good" about racelands. It is good for those on a budget though. Otherwise, they're pretty mediocre.
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Old 05-16-2012, 08:20 PM
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1. You already have VMaxx's available for MINIs if inexpensive coilovers are what you're looking for.

2. Outside of budget, there's nothing "good" about racelands. It is good for those on a budget though. Otherwise, they're pretty mediocre.
You're right...nothing great from a quality perspective but I think the underlying thing here is that Racelands are half the price of VMaxx. In fact, only slightly bit more expensive than lowering springs. I would be for it but I already have coil overs.
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Old 05-16-2012, 10:06 PM
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vmaxx have their own inherent problems, (you get what you pay for) and why not just do Megans they are $845 or cheaper AND they are heads above other C/O in that price range IMO.
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And when you factor in that Megan includes the camber plates, I think they wind up being cheaper than vmaxx
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And what problems might those be?
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I made an offer on the Vmaxx on ebay from stratmosphere and got them for like $400 shipped. Thats what everyone should be paying for them.

That said, for my Miata, the racelands were not worth the money because the Megan EZ Streets can be had for $650 and come with adjustable damping and top hats. Well worth the extra money.
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Old 05-17-2012, 01:48 PM
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And what problems might those be?
http://www.northamericanmotoring.com...fo-please.html

http://www.northamericanmotoring.com...ere-vmaxx.html

also here is what the nice people at vwvortex think of racelands & Vmaxx in one thread!
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...-JOM-or-V-MAXX

I almost bought a set of Vmaxx but Way talked me out of it, you just get what you pay for and in that budget 1 more week of saving for me has made a world of difference in what coilovers I could get.
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Waiting patiently for zero clearance coilovers. Two sets actually.

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Good thing mine havent broken in half yet

See post #6 in your second link.

Your links dont say much towards the Mini community tho, besides the fact that people jump on them cause they are cheap. They server their purpose well. I personally have not had a problem with them due to the coilovers being "cheap" and I've been on them for about two years.
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Old 05-18-2012, 03:08 PM
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well in that case go call Way and see what he says and then call another shop and compare, the man has never steered me wrong before. The fact isn't that they are cheap, if you want disposable C/O then they are a great buy but I look more at function than form when I purchase items, having no dampening and no camber plates is great if you don't mind eating the cost of more parts in the future, but an "all in one" product they are not. Saying that the reviews were "not based on mini" is an argumentative statement, the product is the product, knowing for a fact that a VW guy had to cut the springs to put them on a stock 04 GTI just to get them to function is not, IMHO, the best thing when looking for a set of C/O.

Really it's all gonna come down to what you are looking for, Vmaxx provides a good amount of drop, and the drop-links they come with are ok for slamming your mini on it's nuts. With that said, things like ride quality are sacrificed with going that low on those C/O. I can go almost as low ( I DD my car in the city so I only did a modest drop) but with 32 way dampeners I also can have a comfy ride and not feel like a ricer in a civic on cut springs, and with the camber plates that came with my coilovers I can keep the little bugger from munching it's way through the front tires. For a couple more $$$ you seem to get alot in the world of cheap suspension.

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I guess it really comes down to what you are looking for when you buy, but with the lesser price you lose some of the nice features that the more expensive sets offer.

Hope this clears up what I was trying to say

oh PS: I love your wheels and sorry to hear about your oil pan dude, get well soon.
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I almost bought a set of Vmaxx but Way talked me out of it, you just get what you pay for and in that budget 1 more week of saving for me has made a world of difference in what coilovers I could get.
I find it humorous that someone would avoid vmaxxs based on their quality and then go megans

(Coming from someone who has had both installed on his MINIs)
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herd nothing but positives on the megans, unsure of what your saying
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rally's argument:
vmaxx is to megans as xxr is to rota

both are knock offs, megans just offer more for the money. they aren't terrible per se, but they aren't bilsteins or kw's.
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mmm well what do u expect for $800 a set? I thought we were talking about "cheap" suspension, KWs and Bils are over 1k for coil overs, megans and St's are about the most expensive you can get for under 1k, but are still considered cheap compared to the $1,400 KW's.

Megan is a good company I have used them before on other cars that I expected more from than I do my DD, and they have always delivered. So maybe I have really good luck in purchasing cheaper c/o's, or whatever, but bang for the buck that's where its at IMO.
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