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Old 06-06-2012, 07:47 PM
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so if i wanted coils that perform well, which ones should i be looking at.
KW V1/V2/V3, PSS9, HR RSS, the Koni Coils?
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AST, KW v2 (v3 preferably), PSS9s ...and I'm sure there are more
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Old 06-06-2012, 08:02 PM
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I'd recommend against the Koni coil-overs on the R53. I have them on my car. I run fairly low with TSW camber plates and the fronts have very limited travel that way. You might get a bit more with lower stack camber plates but I think the KW's will be better (I have a set of KW's but still have to install them).
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Old 06-06-2012, 08:15 PM
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so for coils to match swift/yellow performance, we are talking roughly twice the price.

I might be able to talk myself into the 13-14 hundred range(V1s) but not the 17-20 range.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:39 PM
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Hummmm what disqualifies the megans from being good performers?

I drive hard, doesn't mean i'm gonna enter a time attack series. what would make them bad for every day corning hard or the rare autox lap that last all of 2 minutes?

I think i read in another thread that the gas/fluid whatever it maybe can heat up during hard use and change the rates. would that be likely to occur in a short autox lap?
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Hummmm what disqualifies the megans from being good performers?
The fact that they don't perform well?
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Old 06-06-2012, 11:03 PM
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Lol thanks rally
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They're severely limited on travel, their damping curve (even with adjustments) is less than ideal, the factory spring rates are not the best (unless they finally got them right recently)
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I've heard from very knowledgeable mini people that koni yellows and a good set of springs was there best set up. People just tend to switch to COs to get lower or keep the car at the same ride height after weight reductions
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Good to see pictures of how I fucked up my car being used for good. haha
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I've heard from very knowledgeable mini people that koni yellows and a good set of springs was there best set up. People just tend to switch to COs to get lower or keep the car at the same ride height after weight reductions
that was my favorite setup as well. maybe tied with the pss9s I had with some linear spring swaps but those were a tad bit bouncier than the konis.

my favorite coil on other peoples mini I have driven were KW. Have heard awesome stuff about ast though.
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that was my favorite setup as well. maybe tied with the pss9s I had with some linear spring swaps but those were a tad bit bouncier than the konis.

my favorite coil on other peoples mini I have driven were KW. Have heard awesome stuff about ast though.
I've had my KWV1s for about a month now. No complaints so far and I can go way lower
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They're severely limited on travel, their damping curve (even with adjustments) is less than ideal, the factory spring rates are not the best (unless they finally got them right recently)
Had mine on about a month, they are great for DD.

In Rally's opinion coils aren't shit till the cost an arm and a leg ( I jest, I Jest), But as for megans I used to run a set on 2 different cars they worked great on them as well, and on my mini they give a nice ride if you adjust them correctly. I have yet to bottom out or blow out a bump stop and I'm now lowered 3 in. from stock position w/ 5 mil spacers on the front.
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get the megans on a bumpy track and it wont take long at all for them to turn to crap lol. They are still great for lowering the car while getting camber plates also. They fit almost everyones roll for what they want on the mini. For smashing through onramps and little stints through some twisty roads theres no reason not to get them.
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I've heard from very knowledgeable mini people that koni yellows and a good set of springs was there best set up. People just tend to switch to COs to get lower or keep the car at the same ride height after weight reductions
Its not a great set up, I had a customer install them on his Cooper S only for him to come back a week later and demand a set of KW V1's which vastly improved the ride and handling, it was very bouncy on the Konis (his commute to work was through the scottish highlands), the KWs are also a lot more controlled. There are a number of fundamental issues with the Knoi / springs on the mini handling wise esp for track you cannot dial in any forward rake and unlike the better track / race suspension you cannot pre load or change the spring rates, on the Cross I could have changed the springs to any rate i wanted really.

Ive driven on / owned more set ups than I remember on the minis, the best all round I ever owned were the JIC Magic Cross from RMW, so controlled it was un real, I daily drove them and used them through winter as well and our roads in scotland leave a lot to be desired (all off camber and potholed and a fair few round my way are all single track).
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